SpyParty Beta Registration
Finally, the SpyParty Early-Access Beta is now open to everyone! You can join right now, and be playing in as long as it takes to fill out some web forms, visit PayPal,1 and check your email. If you need help, there’s a set of Frequently Asked Questions below, and I’ll see you in the lobby!
Thanks,
Chris
SpyParty Early-Access Beta Registration
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A Few Frequently Asked Questions
Here’s a super-mini-FAQ for stuff I either completely forgot to put here on this page when I posted it, or stuff that isn’t clear:
- Do I have to have friends to play, or is there a central server and I can play other people?
There’s a central lobbyserver, so you get to see everybody who’s currently playing, or waiting to play, or just hanging out and chatting with the really awesome and helpful beta community. It’s pretty ugly right now, but it works. It looks like this if you’re curious. - What platforms does it run on?
It is a Windows game, but it actually runs really well on MacOS using an amazing piece of free magic called Wineskin. A lot of beta testers play on MacOS with Wineskin, and one of them wrote up a really nice and easy tutorial in the beta forums walking you through installing everything you need with screenshots and links and everything, and there are a bunch of people who can help you get it set up if you get stuck. Wineskin works so seamlessly that even the game’s auto-updater works in it. It’s kind of crazy, actually. - Is there a single-player mode yet?
Not yet. Well, there’s Practice Mode, but that’s not really a game, it’s more of a way to get used to things as a newbie, or hone your skills as an advanced player. Eventually there will be a single-player mode, but not for a while. However, as I’ve said, the community is incredibly cool and supportive, so come on in, the water’s fine! - Can I read more, or watch a video before I decide?
Definitely! The manual is here, and the Welcome post, which contains the tutorial video, is here. There are also tons of videos on YouTube, and people streaming the game all the time, so check those out too. - Can you take my money some way besides PayPal?
Sadly, right now, no. I know a lot of people have trouble with PayPal, and I’m going to add Amazon and Google at some point, hopefully soon. A couple things, in the meantime: 1. You don’t need to register for a PayPal account in most countries, you only need a credit card; 2. I’ve found PayPal’s email support to be terrible, but their phone support to be actually really good, so if you are having troubles you might try calling them. - Wait, slow down, I came here from the internet, what the heck is this game?
SpyParty is an asymmetric multiplayer espionage game. One player is a Spy at a cocktail party, trying to accomplishing missions while simultaneously trying to blend in with the other guests. All of the missions have subtle tells associated with them, and all of the other guests are AIs controlled by the computer. The other player is the Sniper, looking in at the party from afar, wishing he or she could order a nice gin and tonic. Because the Sniper can’t order a gin and tonic, somebody at the party is going to get shot, and hopefully it’s the Spy. The Sniper only has one bullet, though, so observe the behavior of the people at the party and choose wisely. If this sounds somewhat familiar, you might want to read this FAQ, where I talk about games with similar mechanics. - What’s the deal with this Early-Access Beta?
After over a year in closed beta, SpyParty is finally open to everyone. It’s a paid beta, which is helping me fund the development of the game. I realize paid beta’s aren’t for everyone, and that’s okay, if you’re more comfortable holding off until the game is done, that’s great, you can still follow along with the progress here on the blog or at the social media outlets on the sidebar. I just added a new SpyParty News link right there at the top right, so you can sign up for a monthly newsletter about changes in the game if you prefer to get your news that way. I literally have no idea when the game will be done, most likely years from now. It takes a very long time to tune and balance a game that’s trying to be as deep and competitive as Poker or Go. On the other hand, if you like the idea of getting early-access to the game, helping it evolve, and of course getting the final game when it’s released as part of the deal, then this might be for you. - Can I ask more questions?
Of course! I answer a bunch in the comments below, and feel free to add yours if you don’t see it already, and check out the real big FAQ, although it needs a fresh coat of paint.
If you have problems or find bugs in the registration process, please send them to support@spyparty.com, don’t post them here as comments since I might not see them. Any other questions or discussion is a-okay here in the comments!
- Yes, other payment providers coming soon! [↩]
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I can’t wait for the new artwork. It looks super nice
I would buy the game, but I don’t see anything about a free second copy. Unfortunately, that’s kind of a deal-breaker on a game that’s strictly multiplayer. Why buy a beta multiplayer game if I can’t play with a buddy (without having to pitch them and get them to throw down $15 first) ?
Guess I’ll wait until the big release…
Yeah, I’ll almost certainly do a two-fer price thing at some point like Frozen Synapse, but I don’t have the infrastructure for it yet and . I’m also going to support “spawned copies”, so you can play with a friend with an account derived from yours that will only play you, which will be pretty cool, and you won’t even have to buy two then. But that’ll have to wait a bit too! I can’t wait for THE FUTURE.
Yeah, I mean I don’t blame you. I’d rather see a dev focus efforts on designing/balancing the game rather than fiddling with high-end payment and account crap. And the game is still in beta, the whole point of which is to better balance the game. I don’t mind waiting.
“Spawned copies” is an AWESOME idea and would certainly help this game get more sales via word-of-mouth. I can’t wait either!
I bought a copy for my cousin but her computer is too weak apparently.
So I kept the second copy for lending it to any friend I want to play with.
This got a few of them to buy it for themselves so far.
That’s great to hear. I always thought spawns were a uniquely awesome feature in the original Starcraft and have never understood why I never saw anyone follow that model(even Blizzard).
What an amazing piece of news! I had my invite thanks to randomness, but my friend was still waiting for one!
What about an option to gift it? Would that be possible? I’d like to buy it for a few people.
Yeah, I am totally going to do gifts, I just haven’t gotten to it yet. It’s high on the list.
I just gifted by putting in a friend’s email address, then paying with my paypal. The email with all of the info is sent to their account, so they can pick it up from there.
Oh, right, that would work! You’re a gifting genius!
Been looking forward to this for so long. Does it work on Mac OSX?
Yeah, through wineskin. I need to add a mini-faq on this page. There’s an awesome tutorial for how to set it up in the beta forums. It works amazingly well, a lot of beta testers play on MacOS. Eventually I’ll do a native port, but Wineskin kind of blew me away with how well it worked…even the auto-updater works with it!?
Hello,
Can you join “public” servers of some sort ? Or is there a system of random matchmaking ? Or is that planned ? Or is it too much a heavy infrastrucutre to invest in for an unsure success, for an independant developper ? In that case, are there plans to bring it to steam in order to have more server ease (if steam provides such things for games he distributes – which i don’t know, but, er, maybe possible) ?
Yep, another good one for the mini-faq. It’s all through a single lobby right now, so you can see everybody else playing and hanging out and chatting. There’s no automatic matchmaking yet, but you can see how many games everybody’s played so you can tell the veterans from the newbies. The community is really amazing and supportive of new players, it’s kind of magic. You’ll often see somebody with thousands of games playing somebody with zero games, mentoring them and helping them learn. Hopefully it stays that way now that the beta is open!
Great ! Might be the answer i hoped for the most :)
Dude, if you do the spawned copies thing you’ll get ten times the sales. Including mine.
Yeah, it’s definitely in the plan!
Huh, for some reason if I change the country from United States to South Africa I no longer have the option to just pay with a card without creating a PayPal account. I have no interest in creating an account so I guess I will have to wait until other payment methods can be used :)
Gah, that’s annoying, sorry about that. I’m going to make a mailing list so I can notify people who can’t pay with paypal when I add google and amazon payments.
Same with Finland, which unfortunately I knew already, but had hoped would change. Amazon or Google – no problems – hoping they aren’t horribly difficult to get working.
You can never trust people from Finland.
I think they should be relatively similar. The Humble Bundle guys helped me out when I was getting it working, and they said they had a lot in common.
Oh my, can’t afford it untill the 18th. Will probably buy it then. You know if it will be in open beta then? Would love to be apart of this game early in development. :)
Best of luck.
It’s going to be in open beta for a looooong time, no worries about the 18th. :)
Hi… What aobut us, on the other side of big polluted water… Can i pay in euros?
Paypal should handle all that, right? Lots of overseas beta testers, so it must work somehow.
Can I download the game on another computer without having to purchase the game again but with logging in with the same account that I recently bought on the other computer?
Yeah, totally, there’s no DRM or anything like that, just log into your beta homepage and download it again and install. You can only log into the lobby once per name, obviously, but you can run it anywhere you want.
Sorry, how do I do that? I can’t seem to find a login space or anything
The link to your beta homepage is in your confirmation email. Or send mail to support@spyparty.com and I can resend it.
thank you very much =D P.s …….I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!…….
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If we buy the beta will we get the game for free?
Yep!
Will there ever be a backgrounds in the missions? Like skies or ground?
Oh yeah, we’re going to show the concepts for the new environments pretty soon, they’re unbelievable, as big a difference as the old characters to the new characters. Can’t wait to reveal them! Hopefully in a month!
*swoon*
Just started playing with the latest closed beta batch, and I’m loving it. And now I can bug all my friends about buying it as well! The environments will probably be a great argument :D
Awesome, so glad you like it!
You send me an invite after two years? I’m sorry, but I simply can’t work up the enthusiasm to care anymore. I do hope you attract lots of new players that sign up and enjoy your game, I won’t be among them.
No problem, but I’m sorry that something has to be “new” for you to care about it, that seems like a great way to miss out on a lot of really amazing art and entertainment that humanity has created. Just hit the unsubscribe link in the invitation mail to make sure the scripts don’t bother you again. If you reconsider, we’ll still be here. :)
Hi Chris,
i reinstalled my system and would like to play some games of SpyParty again. Unfortunately i can not find a way to reinstall Spyparty. There was a Sign up section for the early beta customers somewhere. Can you send me a link or give me a hand how to get on track again?? Much appreciated. Best
Send mail to support at spyparty dot com and we’ll get it figured out!
Hello. I seem to have this bug where I can’t get past the registration page that was linked in the email. The payment confirmation page never loaded for me and I’m not able to get the game download. Help? Whenever I fill out the registration form and register it just reloads the page. Thanks!
Huh, weird, sorry about that! Can you send mail to support at spyparty dot com and I’ll take a look?
Yea I did a few hours ago. Awaiting Reply.
Just needed to make sure the username is all lowercase. Thank you!
Do you think you’ll ever put this on steam? I’m sure it will get a lot of sales on there as well as here. The only thing is that it can be a pain to get it on steam in the first place, and you might not want to deal with all of that, but I was just wondering.
Yeah, it’ll be on Steam eventually, but not for a bit. I couldn’t deal with the influx of players through Steam right now, so not having it on Steam allows the community to grow more slowly and healthily while the game gets its legs under it.
Ok, I see. Thanks for the response!
When’s the new art going in????
Love it!
I answered in more detail over on the Images page, but the short answer is: end of August!
if this game doesn’t go to steam i cant buy it :( i only have steam cards no credit cards
It’ll go to Steam eventually, but not for a while, sorry about that! It’s a bummer that Steam doesn’t let you transfer money back out.
If you give me the money in steam wallet, I can buy the game for you.
You’re gonna have to trust me, though.
That’s nice of you. ibrahem, The Algerian is a beta tester in good standing. Never met him or her personally, but they’re a good member of the community. Let me know if you want me to introduce you two over email.
i really want it to be steam. its also all i got
It’ll happen eventually, assuming nothing catastrophic goes wrong!
Will this game work on Windows 8?
Yep, seems to. It’s got some problem on the latest update for the Surface Pro I’m trying to figure out, but if you just mean desktop Win8, yep.
Ok thank you
Hi, do you know if eventually this will come to PS3/PS4? I’ve been excited about it ever since Kotaku wrote about it years ago, but I don’t really game on PC. Thanks.
Definitely consoles, yes. For specific consoles, I’ll have to see what the situation is (ie. I’m really slow, who knows what the current gen consoles will be like when I finally port) when it’s time to move to other platforms, but I’d like to put it everywhere I possibly can so everybody can play it.
I downloaded and have been playing the game on my Macbook. But I want to also have it on my home PC. Can I do that without having to pay again?
Yep, it’s based on your account, not the install, so just log into your beta homepage again, download the setup, and log in with the game and you’re set.
I feel like I’m not seeing the option to login… Also, it’s really cool how you take the time to respond to all these.
Hmm, not sure what you mean… Send mail to support at spyparty dot com and we’ll figure it out. It’s easier to do the tech support over email!
And thanks, personal replies are one of the cool things about indie games! :)
Hello! I finished paying for this (and the money has already been transferred), but I can’t get the confirmation code! (You guys said it has a bug? It won’t let me go to the 3rd last step, and tells me to contact support) It’s been 3 hours, and I’ve emailed support twice, to no response, my email is pfh12998@gmail.com, however my PayPal has a different email, and I’m itching to finally get my hands on Spy Party, so, help please?
Hi, I replied to you on the support alias, sorry, your mails were very early in the morning here and I was still asleep! PayPal has been causing tons of problems lately with their “Instant Payment Notifications” not being instant, or even remotely timely. I’m hoping this is a temporary thing. Sorry for the delay, and we’ll pick this up on the support email, since it’s easier for me to track!
Will this be coming to the Wii U? The Wii U hardware seems like the PERFECT match for this kind of game…definitely the only system that would make local multiplayer possible.
I have a WiiU devkit sitting right here, so we’ll find out if it works later this year! I’m optimistic too. :) For the other systems, you could imagine iPad and console, or PS4+Vita, or whatever, but the fact that it’s all part of the single console on WiiU does make it seem perfect.
I just bought the game, but it maxes out my processor when it is running. I have an i5-4670k with over a 3ghz clock speed, so I’m not sure why it is doing this.
It shouldn’t in the actual game, but in the lobby it’s because the text system I use is really really terrible and needs to be updated. When you’re in the lobby, type /fps (just type the ‘/’ first, don’t chat first) and it’ll probably have DrawStringOrthoPixels near the top, but not IdleSleep. It’s a known problem, I just need to find time to update the text rendering. Once you’re playing it should be at 60hz without even trying very hard.
I’m seeing the severe slowdown even while in game for both spy and sniper. When the sniper zooms in I see the scope repeated multiple times tiled across the screen.
That sounds like a driver bug, somebody had a similar problem a while back, and a driver update fixed it. The best thing to do is go the the Bugs forum (linked off the left hand side of your beta homepage), read the HOWTO Report Bugs post at the top of that (about how to search for dupes, how to find your logs, etc.), and post there (either a new thread or an existing one, depending if you find it). That’ll give me the info I need to help you out.
I thought it was normal that the game was CPU intensive.
My cousin computer crashes when she tries to run it.
Does it create a crashdump file? If so, please post it in the Bugs forum, or send it to support at spyparty dot com!
But where do I log in I don’t see a login button ANYWHERE please tell me to location
If you mean ingame, you need to click “Play”.
No I mean in this website to download it AGAIN
Well if it’s just that I can send it to you via sendspace.
Edit by checker: he just needs to log into the beta homepage again and download it, I replied below.
The link was in your registration email, but if you don’t have that anymore, here you go.
If i pay for the Beta, am i going to have the complete game for free? am i going to have any special item, privilege, discount, etc, when the complete game is on sale??
Yes, you get the complete game when it’s done, on any platforms where I can do that (PC and Mac obviously, presumably Steam, consoles if I can talk them into it). There’s no special items or anything like that, I’m not a big fan of that kind of thing.
do i have to pay to pay this game if i do the makers are insane this game does not deserve to be a pay for but it looks really good
Wait, it looks really good but it doesn’t deserve to cost money? Okay. Anyway, I know early-access paid-betas aren’t for everybody, so feel free to wait until you feel like it’s worth it! :)
Ha ha ha, there’s always this guy.
He won’t buy but he won’t let go either.
I am having a problem right now. On the actual SpyParty game I am trying to log into my account so I can play but when I type in my password it just pops up with a box that says “Hit Escape”. I have tried retyping my password and username plenty of times but it still will not work! I am very certain that my password is the one I am typing in and I even tried different passwords! Just email me if you know a solution. Or you can just leave a reply and I will check once every day. Thanks.
Best thing to do is email support at spyparty dot com with this kind of thing, so I can try to figure it out with you. Sorry this is happening!
Thanks
Bitcoin payment?
I plan to, not sure when though.
Hello,
I was wondering if this game would be good for a duel com.
What’s a duel com?
Maybe he means duel competition?
Is it possible to change your display name at all?
It’s possible to change your display name, but it’s not actually displayed anywhere yet. It’s not possible to change your username due to a limitation in the way I store the accounts, which is currently what is displayed everywhere, sadly. In the future I will start using the display name more.
What are the system specs for the game, because I don’t want to buy it and not be able to play it.
Understandable! It currently runs on netbooks, so the minimum spec is really really low. However, it will probably get a little higher once the switch is made to all the new art, but a) it will be a really long time before the new art replaces all the old art and b) I want to keep the minspec as low as possible, because indie multiplayer games need to be playable by the largest number of people. So, unless your computer is incredibly old, you should be fine. I develop the game on a two-year-old laptop, and routinely test on even slower machines.
Whenever i press play on the game, it gets stuck on “Looking for lobby”
Go to the Bugs forum (accessible off your beta homepage, where you downloaded the installer), and read the HOWTO Report Bugs post at the top, and follow the instructions there and I’ll look into it. Don’t forget to post a log file like it says in the HOWTO.
Sorry about the trouble!
Chris
Hi! Sorry if this bothers you or anything but is there any way. Any way at all that I can get this for free? If not will this ever become available on the Steam Store?
It’s not available for free, but it’ll be on steam at some point, not sure when. I’m trying to grow the community slowly right now.
Alright sure! I might purchase it on Steam then. My parents probably won’t lend me their Credit Card money to buy this. Thanks anyway!
I must say that after watching some videos this game looks really awesome. I’ll probably wait till its finished before playing it (can’t wait to be the Monopoli Guy!).
Awesome, thanks! Yeah, I’m totally happy with people who want to join the beta early, or wait until it’s done, you’re all awesome! :)
Hey by the way, don’t you have any videos from PAX?
I’m going to post the gallery soon, but I didn’t take many videos. Probably should have!
Yep, you should have. Too bad, I was kinda looking forward to it.
Well, no big deal, I just made that one for you:
http://rutube.ru/video/b4bec7d70bfb76272132368b2d33a550/
(Yeah rutube, Youtube wouldn’t let me, copyright BS and whatnot)
Well if u can put it to steam i can buy it but ill me happier if u can make a “demo” version so people can try it more people will buy it :P. With demo version actually um trial is better
It’ll be on Steam eventually, but not for a while. I want to grow the community slowly so it stays healthy and awesome.
Is the game free or not? Kinda confused here..
Nope, it’s $15, and you get all the updates and the final version too. Kinda like Minecraft or Frozen Synapse, if you’re familiar with those.
Will it run with Wine on linux? Has anyone (Chris?) tested it?
Yep, there are some beta testers on Wine, and a bunch on Wineskin, which is a Wine wrapper for MacOS.
can u sell yr game using the humble store widget? i want to buy it there.
Yr payment processing will be easy if u use it.
pls consider.
Right now it’s all custom code, because it’s tied into the login system for the lobby and whatnot for creating your username, etc. I’ll be adding more payment options soon, probably at least Amazon, maybe Stripe too.
You want me to PAY to be your beta-tester?
<rude language deleted>
Yep, it’s a paid beta, like Minecraft, Frozen Synapse, Prison Architect, and a whole bunch of other indie games. Paid betas are actually a great way to fund indie games, because it means players who want early-access can get it, while helping make the game happen, both through funding and through giving feedback in the beta forums. Players who aren’t comfortable with paying for betas but who are interested in the game are welcome to still be fans until it’s released, just like if there was no paid beta. Everybody wins, and there’s no need for rude language.
Like anyone’s got a gun to your head.
Are the forums you keep mentioning invisible to non-beta-members? I’m considering buying into the Beta, but I’m still weighing whether I’d prefer to just wait for the “final release” someday. I’d be really interested to see some of the information and discussion that’s surely contained inside the forum. Especially since you said that there’s a tutorial for getting the game working with Wine – I’d have to use that to play the game at all.
Tonight I was reminded about SpyParty by the indiegames.com interview you did recently, and I ended up perusing the devblog for a while. I have a general idea of how the game works, but there are still a bunch of questions bouncing around my head (like “what are the specific results of the various “action test” scenarios?”), and right now the only way to get answers seems to be “buy the game to read the forums”.
The forums are currently private to folks in the beta, but I want to mirror them read-only here on the public site because they’re a treasure trove of info, but that’s going to take some backend work (phpbb is not really built to do that with the way my site it set up). We’re actually going to start a “This Week in the Beta Forums” blog feature, but haven’t yet.
There’s also the manual, which has a lot of material in it: http://www.spyparty.com/2011/03/10/rtupdatedfm/
I see. Thanks for the response! I’ll take a look at the manual.
There’s probably a way to set up the forums to only allow accounts to be made by beta-owners, but allow viewing by non-members. But it’d make sense that messing with obscure forum software stuff isn’t a very high priority out of everything else on an indie game dev’s plate.
I definitely want to mirror the forums publicly, though, because they really show off how awesome the community is, and how deep the discussions about strategy are. But yeah, I also need to make the game. :)
Hi Chris,
I’m really looking forward to spawn copies being implemented. I have several friends/family who would like to try this game, but can’t afford to drop $15 on a beta product. If I may make a suggestion, limiting spawn players to only playing with their “master” copy would add a lot of value for your customers (I’ll always have a “guest” copy which a friend could use) without discouraging fans from purchasing your game.
Thanks for your consideration.
Yeah, the plan is for spawn copies to only play their master…I think that’s always how they work. Glad you’re spreading the word and hopefully I’ll be able to help you spread the word with the feature sometime early next year!
If its “Open” beta, we shouldn’t have to pay money…
I used the term “open” a bit differently than some folks…I try to clarify here.
Will this game be available on the iPad!? I don’t have a computer so I’m hoping you will put it on iTunes
I’m assuming “yes, eventually”. It’ll be a while, though.
Will this be relesed for Linux soon?
Not as a native port for a while, but it runs well under Wine, a bunch of beta testers use Wine and Wineskin.
I’m very interested in the game, but it’s not worth it to me until it’s possible to have a spawned copy. Is there a way to be informed when the feature is added? Or at least a presumed date or month so I know when to check back?
I actually plan on resurrecting the mailing list that I shut down when I opened the beta. Not sure why I took it down, since there are plenty of people who want to hear about the game but that don’t feel comfortable buying it yet, I’m just dumb. :) For now, twitter @spyparty or facebook is the best way to get timely news. I hope to do some of this stuff first quarter next year.
If and when the full game is finished, will it be a digital download as well?
Yep, it’ll be digital.
Hey. First of all I want to say that the game looks really nice.
With that said, I have a few questions.
1. How many users are playing this game?
I don’t want to pay for a game and there isn’t anyone to play with. Is there a list of users you can see and can challenge or how does it work? Or do you just start a game and wait (and for how long) for someone to join?
2. Can’t you have more payment options than $15 and $50 or more.
I would gladly pay like $5-$8 even if it meant I would get the game for free later just to try it out.
I mean, $5 is more than $0, right? ;) shouldn’t be that hard to add a third option and then mark those users who payed less than $15 not to get the game for free when it’s completely done.
Hi, thanks! 1) There are usually between 2 and 14 people on, depending on when you check. It occasionally dips to zero, but not for more than a few minutes, so you can usually get a game when you want one. Here’s a graph that’s updated automatically: http://www.spyparty.com/spyparty-beta-players.png 2) I’m probably going to add more payments options in the future, but I don’t think it will go below $15 for a single copy (there will be two-for-one discounts and such, like Frozen Synapse, probably).
I think for a lower price than $15 would make you some extra cash while developing the game.
For those like me, and there’s probably plenty of ppl like me, who doesn’t feel it’s worth $15 but maybe a $10.
And as I said, it could be an account without the getting it for free when it’s done.
Think about it, let’s make up some numbers. Let’s say 10000 people around the world (probably more) know about this game and that 1 % of these buy the beta for $15, which also means that they get it for free later on.
That’s 100 times $15 which is $1500.
When the game is done you got no more money of them.
Let’s then say that an additional 1% (probably more) would buy the beta for $10 without the free copy of the complete game.
That’s an extra 100 times $10 in your pocket = $1000. And they would have to go and buy it for x amount of $ when the game is released.
Let us then say that the complete game would go for $15 and that 10% of those 100 people would actually buy the release, that’s another 10 times $15 which is $150. Which you wont get from the ones that bought the beta for $15.
These numbers are completly made up ofc, but I don’t think I exaggerated the numbers either.
If the number actually is 100000 (out of the 7 billion people on earth, which is 0,00000143%) instead of 10000 then you can multiply the $1500, $1000 and $150 by ten and it would actually be $15000, $10000 and $1500. A total of $26500.
And then I havn’t counted those who will buy the game when it’s done that havn’t bought the beta, neither for $15 nor $10.
I’m rambling.. just trying you to see that both you and the ones buying the beta could benefit from a lower price than $15.
Besides, I bought WoW: Pandaria for $15 a couple of weeks ago, from Blizzard’s own online shop, why would I spend as much money on a game that don’t even come close to that game? out of the goodness of my heart.. well some people might be that kind but the human being are mostly nothing but a selfish, greedy animal. That includes both me and you. ;)